Alweer een tegenslag voor onze "man van de week": Britten: Poetin keurde moord op Litvinenko waarschijnlijk goed
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De Russische president Vladimir Poetin heeft de moord op voormalig spion Aleksandr Litvinenko waarschijnlijk goedgekeurd. Die conclusie trekt de Britse commissie die de moord op Litvinenko heeft onderzocht. Rechter Robert Owen presenteerde donderdag het langverwachte onderzoeksrapport.
De vraag blijft wat schiet het Russische volk (Ik bedoel de Russische volkeren.) met deze leider op?
Poetin, man van de week
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David Bakker
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Dit flutrapport vol speculaties is onderdeel van de hetze tegen Rusland: http://patrickarmstrong.ca/2016/01/21/m ... odswallop/hagenaars schreef:Alweer een tegenslag voor onze "man van de week": Britten: Poetin keurde moord op Litvinenko waarschijnlijk goed
LONDEN -
De Russische president Vladimir Poetin heeft de moord op voormalig spion Aleksandr Litvinenko waarschijnlijk goedgekeurd. Die conclusie trekt de Britse commissie die de moord op Litvinenko heeft onderzocht. Rechter Robert Owen presenteerde donderdag het langverwachte onderzoeksrapport.
De vraag blijft wat schiet het Russische volk (Ik bedoel de Russische volkeren.) met deze leider op?
Het waardeloze NOS-journaal moest hier natuurlijk om 20.00 mee openen.
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hagenaars
Re: Poetin, man van de week
Als ik Poetin was dan zou ik mij toch bezwaard voelen...Ga je nu beweren dat Rechter Robert Owen dit uit zijn duim zuigt? Je bent een onverbeterlijk lichtgelovig man. Jammer is dat.
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hagenaars
Re: Poetin, man van de week
Is er een hetze tegen Rusland? Of worden er argumenten tegen de leider aangevoerd?
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hagenaars
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Het net om de leider sluit zich... https://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... LWmXeNp6zw
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hagenaars
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Er blijven twijfels natuurlijk... Putin’s ‘secret wealth’ - ‘The old western demonizing game on again’
Published time: 26 Jan, 2016 12:56
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US Treasury official Adam Szubin © Gary Cameron
US Treasury official Adam Szubin © Gary Cameron / Reuters
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It is not a coincidence that allegations of Vladimir Putin’s secret fortune come a week after the Litvinenko report in the UK. It is the old game used against those who dares to criticize the West, says political analyst Daniel Patrick Welch.
The US Treasury’s Acting Under Secretary for terrorism and financial crimes, Adam Szubin, accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of corruption. Szubin was interviewed by the BBC as an expert for the channel’s investigation into Putin’s income.
RT: What do you make of these allegations against President Putin?
Daniel Patrick Welch: I don’t believe they have any special insight or financial analysis that proves or disproves a theory like this. I suppose it could all be true, every single word of it, but I don’t think it is likely because of who is making the allegations. The CIA says his wealth is $40 billion, and has been planting these kinds of stories against African leaders, against everyone on the globe who they are pursuing to be their enemy for years. If that were all true I would still be asking these same questions: who is saying it and why are they saying it, why are they saying it now.
RT: What about the timing of these claims? This comes a week after the Litvinenko report in the UK. Is that a coincidence?
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© Aleksey Nikolskyi‘Pure fiction’: Kremlin comments on BBC’s probe about ‘Putin’s money’
DPW: Of course, it is not a coincidence. It is the same tired old game that they have been using for years. They used it to slander the African leaders. It was a famous exchange about corruption between Mike Wallace and Minister Louis Farrakhan only about a few years ago. They also use it to demonize what I call “the Hitler of the month club”- the latest person who is bad in the eyes of the West. In other words, someone who stands up and actually dares to criticize or push back against what the West is doing in its ongoing completely corrupt campaign on which they’ve spent $6 trillion to destabilize all the countries in the Middle East and North Africa. If that is not corruption – I don’t know what is.
RT: Do you think Treasury official Adam Szubin would be making such allegations without approval from the White House?
DPW: … He was named and he appeared in public. This is coming directly from the State Department and the CIA and the administration of President Obama whose backers spent a billion dollars to put him where he is or the US Treasury which lost $2 trillion in its Pentagon budget in 2001. It is laughable. And you have a former president Jimmy Carter who once come out and say: “There is really no such thing as democracy in the US because the elections at the federal level are so completely corrupted and are so awash in money.” They don’t care, they want to spread rumors and demonize. They want you to focus on this, chase the yacht, chase this… Don’t worry that we are building an airbase in Syria. They are mad because the Russian president is doing something to push back against their ongoing road show of destabilization...
RT: The Russian president's spokesman said: “None of these questions or issues needs to be answered as they are pure fiction". Is this an appropriate response?
DPW: I was considering that. I don’t say this as a part of the international Putin fan club. That is not why those of us like me speak out against this. Why we speak out is because we are trying to push back against the lies and hypocrisy of the West. I think it is an appropriate response because what if President Putin spent all of his time pushing back against every one of these stories. “He killed Litvinenko, he has a yacht that he got from Abramovich, he personally strangled John F. Kennedy, he personally faked the moon landing”… Who knows what will they come up with? We know they have black ops, we know they plant stories; we know they have interest in doing this. So, why bother, why would they? Why would the Russians bother to push back against each one? They don’t have the time and it’s clear what they are trying to do is that lead them off course, pull them into their cycle of what I call the echo chamber and try to get them to answer on their terms. And there is no reason to do that.
The statements, views and opinions expressed in this column are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RT.
Published time: 26 Jan, 2016 12:56
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US Treasury official Adam Szubin © Gary Cameron
US Treasury official Adam Szubin © Gary Cameron / Reuters
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It is not a coincidence that allegations of Vladimir Putin’s secret fortune come a week after the Litvinenko report in the UK. It is the old game used against those who dares to criticize the West, says political analyst Daniel Patrick Welch.
The US Treasury’s Acting Under Secretary for terrorism and financial crimes, Adam Szubin, accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of corruption. Szubin was interviewed by the BBC as an expert for the channel’s investigation into Putin’s income.
RT: What do you make of these allegations against President Putin?
Daniel Patrick Welch: I don’t believe they have any special insight or financial analysis that proves or disproves a theory like this. I suppose it could all be true, every single word of it, but I don’t think it is likely because of who is making the allegations. The CIA says his wealth is $40 billion, and has been planting these kinds of stories against African leaders, against everyone on the globe who they are pursuing to be their enemy for years. If that were all true I would still be asking these same questions: who is saying it and why are they saying it, why are they saying it now.
RT: What about the timing of these claims? This comes a week after the Litvinenko report in the UK. Is that a coincidence?
Read more
© Aleksey Nikolskyi‘Pure fiction’: Kremlin comments on BBC’s probe about ‘Putin’s money’
DPW: Of course, it is not a coincidence. It is the same tired old game that they have been using for years. They used it to slander the African leaders. It was a famous exchange about corruption between Mike Wallace and Minister Louis Farrakhan only about a few years ago. They also use it to demonize what I call “the Hitler of the month club”- the latest person who is bad in the eyes of the West. In other words, someone who stands up and actually dares to criticize or push back against what the West is doing in its ongoing completely corrupt campaign on which they’ve spent $6 trillion to destabilize all the countries in the Middle East and North Africa. If that is not corruption – I don’t know what is.
RT: Do you think Treasury official Adam Szubin would be making such allegations without approval from the White House?
DPW: … He was named and he appeared in public. This is coming directly from the State Department and the CIA and the administration of President Obama whose backers spent a billion dollars to put him where he is or the US Treasury which lost $2 trillion in its Pentagon budget in 2001. It is laughable. And you have a former president Jimmy Carter who once come out and say: “There is really no such thing as democracy in the US because the elections at the federal level are so completely corrupted and are so awash in money.” They don’t care, they want to spread rumors and demonize. They want you to focus on this, chase the yacht, chase this… Don’t worry that we are building an airbase in Syria. They are mad because the Russian president is doing something to push back against their ongoing road show of destabilization...
RT: The Russian president's spokesman said: “None of these questions or issues needs to be answered as they are pure fiction". Is this an appropriate response?
DPW: I was considering that. I don’t say this as a part of the international Putin fan club. That is not why those of us like me speak out against this. Why we speak out is because we are trying to push back against the lies and hypocrisy of the West. I think it is an appropriate response because what if President Putin spent all of his time pushing back against every one of these stories. “He killed Litvinenko, he has a yacht that he got from Abramovich, he personally strangled John F. Kennedy, he personally faked the moon landing”… Who knows what will they come up with? We know they have black ops, we know they plant stories; we know they have interest in doing this. So, why bother, why would they? Why would the Russians bother to push back against each one? They don’t have the time and it’s clear what they are trying to do is that lead them off course, pull them into their cycle of what I call the echo chamber and try to get them to answer on their terms. And there is no reason to do that.
The statements, views and opinions expressed in this column are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RT.
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Re: Poetin, man van de week
Mijn Twitterbody Hubert Smeets* adviseerde mij zijn "De wraak van Poetin" aan te schaffen. En de grote denker Geert Mak vindt het een goed boek....dus kopen die hap. En ja hoor, ik was er al bang voor, gelijk in de eerste alinea van het voorwoord gaat het faliekant mis:
"Het is oorlog in Europa. Die wordt uitgevochten in Oekraine en verdeelt het continent. Aan de ene kant staat een Europa dat wil geloven in de toekomst van de rechtsstaat. Aan de andere staat een Rusland dat terug wil naar de negentiende eeuw. Rusland heeft daarbij het initiatief en neemt zo wraak op de geschiedenis. Europa weet zich er amper raad mee en reageert met vallen en opstaan."
Een grotere vooringenomenheid is nauwelijks denkbaar. Wij - het Europa waar ik Huberts Smeets toebehoor - zijn goed en Rusland is slecht. We lezen maar verder....hebben er immers voor betaald zegt de calvinist in mij. Pffff, dat wordt weer zwoegen.
*) https://twitter.com/hubertsmeets/status ... 1149944833
Wie toch verder wil lezen in dit genre kan terecht bij collega Laura Starink:
http://www.literairnederland.nl/de-scha ... a-starink/
Check ook even de tweets van Laura, de Poetin-haat druipt er vanaf: https://twitter.com/LauraStarink1
Als u vindt dat u nog niet voldoende eenzijdig bent voorgelicht, dan kunt u altijd nog hier naar toe: http://www.debalie.nl/agenda/podium/oek ... _11765764/ waar we uiteraard weer dezelfde usual suspects aantreffen.
"Het is oorlog in Europa. Die wordt uitgevochten in Oekraine en verdeelt het continent. Aan de ene kant staat een Europa dat wil geloven in de toekomst van de rechtsstaat. Aan de andere staat een Rusland dat terug wil naar de negentiende eeuw. Rusland heeft daarbij het initiatief en neemt zo wraak op de geschiedenis. Europa weet zich er amper raad mee en reageert met vallen en opstaan."
Een grotere vooringenomenheid is nauwelijks denkbaar. Wij - het Europa waar ik Huberts Smeets toebehoor - zijn goed en Rusland is slecht. We lezen maar verder....hebben er immers voor betaald zegt de calvinist in mij. Pffff, dat wordt weer zwoegen.
*) https://twitter.com/hubertsmeets/status ... 1149944833
Wie toch verder wil lezen in dit genre kan terecht bij collega Laura Starink:
http://www.literairnederland.nl/de-scha ... a-starink/
Check ook even de tweets van Laura, de Poetin-haat druipt er vanaf: https://twitter.com/LauraStarink1
Als u vindt dat u nog niet voldoende eenzijdig bent voorgelicht, dan kunt u altijd nog hier naar toe: http://www.debalie.nl/agenda/podium/oek ... _11765764/ waar we uiteraard weer dezelfde usual suspects aantreffen.
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hagenaars
Re: Poetin, man van de week
Hubert Smeets heeft gelijk, Poetin is een conservatief, een reactionair. Hij biedt zijn land en de volkeren die er wonen geen enkel voordeel,...
Kijk eens wat de leiding er zelf van vindt: https://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... 0389,d.bGs
Kijk eens wat de leiding er zelf van vindt: https://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... 0389,d.bGs
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David Bakker
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Re: Poetin, man van de week
Over Smeets wordt verschillend gedacht: http://stanvanhoucke.blogspot.nl/2015/1 ... tieke.htmlhagenaars schreef:Hubert Smeets heeft gelijk, Poetin is een conservatief, een reactionair. Hij biedt zijn land en de volkeren die er wonen geen enkel voordeel,...
Bij zijn aantreden stelde Poetin al de diagnose: 'dutch disease'. Hij deed er niet veel aan. Ben benieuwd wat ie er aan denkt te gaan doen.hagenaars schreef:Kijk eens wat de leiding er zelf van vindt: https://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... 0389,d.bGs
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hagenaars
Re: Poetin, man van de week
Gelukkig wordt er verschillend over Hubert Smeets gedacht, zoals er ook heel verschillend over Stan van Hoecke kan worden gedacht.